Friday, April 10, 2009

LOST April 8, 2009

LB is on to A Storm of Swords!!! congrats LB! any guesses as to when the Kurth of Flowers will finally finish A Game of Thrones? I'm putting the over/under at May 21, 2009. Place your bets, win a nut!
CB Note: Hmm, that's a toughy. Especially since Rachel can fix the results! I guess I'll go with the under.
RK Note: LOL. I am am past page 500, but still have a good chunk to go... Tough call, I am not sure even where I'd put my own over/under!! Also who wants to lend me their copy of a Clash of Kings when I'm ready?

1:00 - "jacob wanted it done." great opener for the ep.

2:00 - who is this dude btw? important? or is he gonna get killed in 2 minutes? id guess he was the leader of the others, but that should be widmore maybe, bc ben deposed widmore? or this is the guy before widmore? or is richard the leader?

3:00 - omglol. its charles widmore!! does that count as a nut? i think it should!
CB Note: Actually I believe it counts as a......

RK Note: MAJOR raisin, but why did Widmore look SO different than he did in 1954? I mean I guess its been over 20 years, but still...

4:00 - who is gonna judge ben? is it jacob? i bet its... THE TEMPLE!!!
CB Note: DUHS it's the black smoke!!!!! We totes mcgoats knew this from the previews last ep.
RK Note: DUH Justin, it's smokey! We knew that!

5:00 - so close, the black smoke will do the judging. black smoke comes from the temple we learned from rousseau's old plot, so i think... BILL IT!
CB Note: Still not a nut for you. Try again later!
RK Note: RAISIN

6:00 - hey, is this guy who had sayid in cuffs working for widmore? i dont remember.
CB Note: Initially folks, I had no clue whatsover at who J was referring to here. I asked him and discovered he meant Caesar (tho he didnt remember Caesar's name). So, then I came back to the blog and have to wonder why exactly J thinks that Caesar had Sayid in cuffs when in fact it was the girl bounty hunter, Ilana who had Sayid in cuffs on the plane. Sooo......I have to say.....whatchu talkin bout J-roc?
RK Note: Oh, nash...

7:00 - lol at how easily ben manipulates that idiot. think its a double game that locke set up with caesar?
CB Note: Ben's totally double-timing Locke. He's pretending that he is on Locke's side and knew he'd come back to life and yada yada yada, but he's totally trying to turn everyone against Locke and make them think he's an "other" if you will. Kind of like an Ethan pretending to be a Lostie. Oh, Ben!

8:00 - omg at young ben and his terrible hair, and his different voice. HILARIOUS. think theyre getting rousseau or alex? thats what i think...
CB Note: Hilarious at Ben's fake hair. It's almost as bad as Jack's fake hair in his flashbacks. Seriously, this show is all crazypants so you'd think they'd at least have good hair/makeup effects people! Speaking of hair, did it bother anyone else that Ethan's hair was blonde when adult Ethan has dark hair?

9:00 - nut.... nut.... wait for it.... nutteroo!!!

10:00 - oooh, he told her to run from whispers.
CB Note: I also thought this was awesome
RK Note: omgeeeeeeeee so the whispers are the OTHERS? or from SMOKEY? or WHAT?

11:00 - great question john, about why ben stopped you then killed you. what was the critical information ben got from him? i dont remember. also, did we nut this as hte reasoning behind the "dont do it, ill do it" twist?
CB Note: Well NUT for me re: Feb 25th Lost Bloggage where you wonder why Ben stopped Locke from suiciding and then killed him anyway. I thought that he wanted to get info out of John first, cause at that point we didn't know if he knew about Eloise or not (which is who Locke told him Widmore told him to go see to get back to the island). Also, per Rachel's notes to the same issue about how maybe Ben wanted to be the leader so he wanted Locke out of the way - I think there's a bit of truth to this also, since Ben was always threatened by Locke and jealous of his ties to the island. That showed a lot tonight with him trying to sabotage him/get him killed again/wonder how Locke knew so much about the island. He totally wants to be one with the island like Locke is.

12:00 - if the monster is a "judger" whyd it kill people who didnt deserve to die, like ecko?
CB Note: Maybe Eko did deserve to die! He was a really bad guy before the island if you'll remember, a killer and a drug dealer. He caused his brother's death. Upon my Lostpedia research, I believe that the reason the smoke killed him was because he refused to confess his sins. Ben did confess to being responsible for Alex's death and was sorry for it.
RK Note: Interesting how smokey kills some, acquits some, and others releases but makes sick/insane like Rousseau's comrades!

13:00 - rofl at ben killing caesar. all that "what's the deal with caesar..." previous blogging, and just like that, poof, gone, like keyser soze.
CB Note: That would be kind of a let down if this was IT for caesar. I'm gonna go and say it isn't and we'll find out more about him in the future.

14:00 - oh man, great commercial... EARTH BELOW USSSS DRIFITNG FALLINGGGGGGG.

20:00 - i am enjoying this locke-ben banter.

21:00 - i like how its turning into an alex-centric episode.
CB Note: I miss Alex.

22:00 - also, omglol at young(er) widmore.
CB Note: More great work by the hair dept at lost.

23:00 - ooh ooh, we are totes mcgotes gonna get to see the actual deposing of widmore. love it!

24:00 - they are in the present right? they didnt flash? who is in that house?
CB Note: Duh yes they are in present (which is 2007 fyi)

25:00 - sun, really? that was so obvious. i thought itd be cooler.
CB Note: You thought it would be Alex's ghost didntcha

26:00 - ben is lying right? we know he woulda known them? or did ben not know bc he got temple-saved?
CB Note: Well, we know that he would lose memory if taken to the others to be saved. However, they say he's gonna go back to Dharma after that, meaning presumably he'd see them again. Tho perhaps not, it's not clear yet really. He could have stayed with the others for a little bit before going back. Or maybe when returned to Dharma he didnt interact with any of them. Shrugs. I don't think he was lying.
RK Note: MAYBE, they're gone by the time ben gets back to Dharma!!!

27:00 - lol at lupidis then "you might wanna look outside!"

28:00 - think im the only one totes not interested in all the "sun must find jin" storylining? and how could frank be so dumb as to walk away? doesnt he know the dilly by now?
CB Note: Yes you are the only one. Sun & Jin forever!!!! How can you not love the love stories in Lost (except for the love rectangle...Sun/Jin and especially Penny/Desmond is where its at)
RK Note: YES you are the only one, Sun & Jin forever, must reunite, true love forever and ever and ever and ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

29:00 - oh, is this is secret thing we saw used before like last season? i guess this means hte boat was to regular dharmaville. omg teh tmeple secret door!!! dharma town is ubitl over it?!?!?!?!
CB Note: I feel like I've been noting forever and you're only on minute 29? This can't be right. Also, I find this entry totally unledgible. What are you saying?!?
RK Note: Uhhhh i don't think dharmatown is built over the stuff below the temple... i don't think it extends THAT far underground, it seemed like a long hike through the jungle, past the sonar fences, to get to that temple wall..... and if the wall is outside the temple, then the temple is INSIDE the wall... and we've never even seen what it looks like, for all we know its some crazy ultra-modern structure that is surrounded by an ancient looking wall to throw ppl off.

30:00 - WHAT was with that puddle!
CB Note: Certainly a weird way to summon the monster.
RK Note: How the heck does this swamp bathtub plug thing work

31:00 - hmm weird explanation on the power change. i thought itd be a big event. instead there was talk of penny mothered by an outsider. we totes know who right? seemed an odd breakup tho for how widmroe left. i was expecting more fireworks.
CB Note: Yea I was hoping we'd have more explanation of this too, perhaps in the future. I guess if Penny's mom is an outsider, then it's not Ellie and so she and Faraday aren't true siblings, just halfers. I also still have issues with the timeline. This is happening post-purge, meaning after 1992. So, obviously Penny was born a long time ago, so why is Widmore being punished for it at this point? Something must have happened to turn the tables and put Ben in the power position instead of Widmore so Ben is punishing Widmore for this "rule breaking" that he's done in the past.
RK Note: Right, the timeline makes no sense! Also Faraday and Penny wouldn't be half siblings unless Charles Widmore is Faraday's dad, which is a nut I had tried to make awhile back, but I don't think its been confirmed yet, has it?

32:00 - john walking scares me too, tbh.

33:00 - i think ben was tricking or something. he totes doesnt want to see the monster...

34:00 - great ben call to widmore. the ep is totes gonna end with ben doing something to penny, maybe cliffhanging. i think she'll be ok. tho he really mgiht kill her, as payback for alex.
CB Note:


35:00 - omg! why under? i dont get it? and tell desmond i was sorry! must be for penny right? or something else? maybe he sees penny and desmond now and does something besides kill her? suspensefullllllllll
CB Note: This is the same place that Danielle's guys went down. It's where the smoke monster came from. When Ben said this, i nutted that he was sorry for ATTEMPTING to murder penny. (after seeing what happened, probs also for shooting him lol).

36:00 - omg he shot desmond!
CB Note: Desmooooooooooooooooooooooooooond!

37:00 - the kid! it was just like with alex and he didnt kill rousseau!
RK Note: Apparently Ben is a big softie for the kiddies!

38:00 - whats he have to be sorry for tho? just shooting desmond? and obvi we know how he got those bruises. did anyone nut it?
CB Note: Yup. I said that he went after Penny and my thoughts were that Desmond was the cause of his bruises (since I was confident that they wouldn't kill off Penny!)

39:00 - wtf is this girl up to? ilana. did widmore send her after sayid? thats right, right? so shes looking for the statute or temple for widmore?
CB Note: I'd like to note that earlier in this blog you (incorrectly) said that Caesar was the one who brought Sayid on the plane. Just saying.... Anyhoo, you also are obsessed with connecting these people to Widmore, not in a nutting sense, but in a thinking we already know sense. For the record, we don't know for either yet. So far we had no reason to think she was aware of the island before landing on it. So what's the deal with her being in cahoots with a few other passengers and knowing things about the island, specifically the statue??!
RK Note: What lies in the shadow of the statue?!?!? How is she connected?! How does she know anything?! What is weird is that when ben called widmore he seemed to genuinely have no idea how ben could possibly get back to the island, so how can ilana and them be working for him?!?!?! what DOES lie in the shadow of the statute? is it Jughead the bomb?

53:00 - i totes dont understand the heiroglyphics btw.
CB Note: I knew you were messing up the timing this ep! You jumped to minute 53!

54:00 - the smoke came out of those holes, lol. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird.
RK Note: Bizarre

55:00 - awesome.... getting ot see the inside of hte smoke. pure awesome.
RK Note: Except, pure LAME? THIS is all that happens inside the smoke? What BAD special effects. I was VERY disappointed, personally.

56:00 - oh alex... making ben seem almost not terrible. and theres alex! omg, its like christian and all hte rest. craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy

57:00 - whoa. is jacob appearing as alex now? i bet thats it. its gotta be it.
CB Note: We've had loads of occassions where people on the island see and speak to people who are dead/not supposed to be there. Perhaps it always is Jacob appearing as other people.

58:00 - pretty good ep. with we coulda had more ben-widmore backstory though. and things still seem weird about the temple, din really learn much. we knew the smoke came from it.

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