Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Feb 25 2009 LOST

you momos better start doing your notes. also, i dont know if rk knows this or not, but that girl from Mamma Mia was in House, and she predicted a 30% chance that its raining...
CB Note: Way to mix movie references
RK Note: I didn't see Mamma Mia, but she's also in Big Love.

1:00 - big night people - we get to find out what happened with Locko off the island. i hope it lives up to the expectations and hype!

2:00 - this guy looks familiar. i think hes up to no good! what was his nickname from last blog? i cant remember.

3:00 - cb remembers tho - condolences guy!

4:00 - ummm. so that wasnt before the plane, it was on the island? wtf was he looking in? was he on the plane? in a random hatch? there was like a desk and a gun and island info. we guess they crashed near a dharma or Others station i suppose. weird.
CB Note: I guessed Dharma. I read somewhere that they might be on the second island (the one where Jack/Kate/Sawyer were held). I didn't notice at the time, but when Locke was looking out across the water, you see the island there in the distance. http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1469-12.html. That could explain why Lupidus and "a woman" took the boat.
RK Note: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I think they are SO on the second island, the swinging doors looked a lot like that place where the Others had that hospital type place where Ben was having surgery that time, when they were holding Kate and Sawyer in those cages.
CB Note: True, and it would make sense that there they'd find supplies to help the hurt people!

5:00 - John!!! so he died, and was revived on the island? kind of like healing his leg, only cooler? John is the Messiah of the island.
CB Note: Reincarnation!
RK Note: WEIRD. So weird. But awesome!!!

6:00 - its funny, hes wearing his funeral suit. and there are the boats. already there? weird. how'd they get there?
RK Note: How DID those boats get there?!?!

7:00 - frank and some woman took a boat. what woman? cb guessed sun. shouldn't she have flashed? i really don't buy this random crashing on the island. cb wonders if frank would have flashed too. i responded that he wouldn't have flashed, bc hes not a Lostie. she responded that miles faraday and charlotte all flash. that's a good point. miles and charlotte have a connection to the island though. faraday maybe does, if him being widmore's son is a good nut.
CB Note: I just think that it would be weird for Miles/Faraday/Charlotte to time-flash and not Frank. Even if they have a "past connection" to the island. That's not a reason to flash versus not flashing since none of the Losties have the same "connection." Plus, at the point when Frank is flying over the island, he does have a "past connection" bc he was on the island before! Plus, he could have flashed and appeared on the island in the same location as where they crashed. Obvioulsy not all of them flashed to the same place, since last week we saw Hurley/Kate/Jack but not Sun/Sayid. Also, Locke probably flashed out of the plane as well, and he's in that location, so why not Frank/Sun too?
RK Note: Brilliant analysis, Caryn!!
CB Note: Thanks!! :)

8:00 - cb and i are debating the above entry. she just had kind of a good guess for the plane crashing - frank flashed off and there was no pilot. that could be true, except the plane would still kinda miss the island most likely bc its going so fast, and also thered be a copilot. this is a good guess by her though, i could buy it. but now shes talking about magnetic forces at work causing the crash, but, IT WAS DESMOND NOT DOING THE BUTTON that caused the Losties to crash in the first place. i still dont like this miraculous crash. cb responds that magnetic forces also crashed danielle's boat and desmonds.
CB Note: Ok 1. Frank could have flashed out of the plane, freaking out the co-pilot who was scrambling to save/land the plane (the plane didn't even seem to be broken...maybe he crash landed). 2. There ARE magnetic forces at work on this island. They crashed danielle's boat, desmond's boat, the black rock, etc. Flight 815 crashed due to extreme magnetic forces due to Desmond not pressing the button, but you cant just then discount the magnetic forces themselves! Plus the fact that with the time travel/bright light stuff that's been going on, there's probably a lot of magnetic force at work.

9:00 - she also would like to note that this is why it takes us an hour ad a half to watch the show, bc we have to pause and debate and blog. she also made a hand motion to indicate that the island is "spurting out magnetic forces" every 30 seconds.

10:00 - she said spurt... lol.

11:00 - she actually said frank ran off in the middle of the night, indicating he didnt flash off.
CB Note: See earlier note. It doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't flash since he could have flashed near to the crash!

12:00 - i hope locke tells this girl he's dead and alive again. thatd be funny.

13:00 - "locke, she doesnt know you well enough to believe your crap" - cb

14:00 - GOOD LUCK JOHN!

15:00 - locke's in tunisia. didnt ben come off in tunisia too? is that wear charlotte found that dead animal? whats the deal with... tunisia!!
RK Note: DUH, Tunisia is where they come out when they turn the wheel and flash! They flash into Tunisia! Must be another one of those special spots in the universe. That is also where Charlotte found the polar bear with the Dharma collar. I don't even think this can count as a nut because it was so clear!
CB Note: True, we all knew that Charlotte found the polar bear in Tunisia, no nuts!

16:00 - cb noted half a moment after me that charlotte also had a tunisia past.
CB Note: Half a moment my butt.

17:00 - that camera wasnt there when ben came off. i bet he or widmore put it there. ill go with ben.

18:00 - well, i didnt think it was gonna be random tunisians! (obviously they work for ben or widmore)

19:00 - hey, its the guy from Fringe and The Wire. rk, do you remember that show??? i actually thought his character had just been dropped from Lost. i suppose this means widmore found him...
CB Note: You should know better than to think that Lost would just drop anyone and not refer to them again!

20:00 - nut. cb: "that sounds like widmore". duh. it also sounds like Caleb Nichol.
CB Note: NOT A NUT FOR YOU!!!! You said it was Ben or Widmore (how many times do we have to go over this) AND then you went with Ben! See 17:00. That means RAISIN! You can't change your mind when you see someone you know works for Widmore and expect that to count as a nut.

21:00 - anyway, widmore says "nice to see you again" and john says "do i know you?" and then cb is like "ahhhhh nice to see you again, 1954!" and im like "huh, its 1954? did it say 1954?" bc i was blogging and only listening, and she looks at me like an idiot. widmore is referencing their 1954 island meeting. whoops! cb wanted me to relate this story...
CB Note: Psh you weren't even blogging at that moment.
RK Note: This is pretty awesome.

22:00 - ooh. lovin' this widmore story. he was the leader of hte Others before ben! for 3 decades! so, cb and i just talked it through, though she thought of it slightly earlier than me, if he was 17 in 1954 and not leader then, and then became leader immediately after john left, that means the earliest penny coulda been born off the island is 1984 and she's totes older than that. penny was born on the island!! WHO IS HER MOTHER?!?!?! i wonder if its that girl who we thought was faraday's mother? siblings? or just we were wrong on faraday.
CB Note: Ahem, more than slightly earlier than you =p The only way Penny isn't somehow conceived on the island is if Widmore was the "ruler" from the day he was born! But also, Ben came to the island as a boy in the 70s and the "purge" when they killed all the dharma people happened in Dec 1992 (thanks lostpedia!). So is that when Widmore was kicked out? But that doesn't make sense either cause Penny would remember either a) being on the island or b) her father not being around (should she have grown up off the island). This time stuff is quite confusing!! Another thought...any possibility that the 3 "decades" is misleading...like on island time versus off island time?
RK Note: BRILLIANT time analysis! Penny was totally born on the island!!! And for all we know, she DOES remember it... right? Could Elosie Hawking, aka Ellie in 1954, be PENNY's mom? AND Faraday's? Penny and Faraday, brother and sister?
CB Note: I said the same thing to J when we were discussing it mid-show!!

23:00 - also, if he couldn't have been exiled until the 80s or 90s by ben, that means that widmore was NOT originally behind dharma?!?!?! i thought widmore was always one of the people behind dharma. cb asks if we have a reason to think this. im positive funding for dharma has been linked to widmore. maybe he got involved with dharma after he got kicked off as an attempt to try to get back? that doesnt make sense though, bc dharma was fine until it got killed by ben helping the Others, which is when widmore still would have been leader of the Others. im confused. somebody please help. when did dharma first come to the island.
CB Note: Dharma came to the island in 1970. I swear I could spend all day trying to piece this all together on lostpedia! From what I've been able to summise...the Hanso Foundation is a big backer of Dharma. But I don't think we've had any proof exactly how they related to Widmore Corp. Also of interest, it says that Hanso cut its funding of Dharma in '87, which was 5 years before the purge. So what were they doing in that time??

24:00 - also, this story makes it seem like maybe widmores not a bad guy... it could be ben! who is the real bad guy?!
RK Note: What a wildcard! Maybe they're both bad guys?

25:00 - a war?! what war?! tell usssssssssssssssssssssss. between ben and widmore? or bigger than that???
RK Note: OMG a WAR?!?!

26:00 - Locke seemed to give Wire guy a look when he showed up...
RK Note: Because he remembered him from when Locke was in the hospital and he was an orderly who convinced him to go to Australia!!!

27:00 - i still cant remember. did bentham visit them all and then die? i feel like john said that. is that what we are gonna see now?

28:00 - bingo. looks like it. also, htf did he know sayid was there?
CB Note: Widmore gave him a folder with info on all of their whereabouts, he was having each of them watched.

29:00 - a) i totally dont remember helen. b) wtf more walt? hmm, maybe thats why they had 3 years go by off the island; now walt's the right size!
CB Note: Locke and Helen met at an anger-management support group. They started dating, but the big issue in their relationship was Locke's obsession with his father (he would stalk him). She tried to get him over it. Then his dad faked his death and approached Locke to try to get him to help him with a con. Helen found out and broke up with him. Sometime later, Locke would call a phone sex operator and call her Helen. He even invited her to go to Australia with him.
RK Note: I wonder if Michael could someone also not be dead from the freighter explosion, like Jin! But what does Walt have to do with any of this?
CB Note: Michael being alive would be a big stretch (even tho on Lost, anything is possible) just since he was actually in the room with the explosives when they went off. And he saw Christian, which made it seem like the island was forgiving him and letting him die a hero, since up til that point, he wasn't able to kill himself/be killed.

30:00 - and walt's dreaming about locke! its the future for locke!

31:00 - so, was that just a walt scene for the helluva it, or is walt really gonna be in the show in the future, and he has to go back to? also, Ben is NOT pleased!
RK Note: I'd like to know this as well.
CB Note: Walt was always an important character when he was on. He dreamed things that came true. While it would definitely be interesting to add him back into the mix...I'm not sure they have plans for him outside of this (possibly just a tying up of loose ends for walt? or perhaps he will have to come back to the island.) Also interesting to note, something I read, a little continuity error. When Locke goes to see Walt, Walt calls him John, and Locke never refers to himself as Jeremy Bentham. But in a past ep, Walt goes to visit Hurley and tells him that Jeremy Bentham came to see him.

32:00 - HILARIOUS, hurley thinks locke is dead.
RK Note: Didn't we see a scene like this once before, last season, with Hurley in the mental institution and see's outside at that table on the grounds, and he's talking to John? But we were made to believe he was hallucinating seeing someone dead, the same way he was seeing Charlie?

33:00 - fyi - i did NOT remember this story. however, i did note in 26:00 that locke totally recognized him. so... BILL IT!
CB Note: Bill nothing! I'm auditing you! It was obvious Locke recognized him, even if we couldnt remember why!
Working or posing as a hospital orderly, Abaddon met Locke at the rehabilitation center after his fall from a window caused by Anthony Cooper. While wheeling Locke back to his room, he stopped, and urged Locke to attend a walkabout, something Abaddon claimed to experience that changed his life. He even claimed to have experienced a miracle. Abaddon told Locke that if he did the walkabout that when they met again, he would owe him one.
RK Note: I remembered why! And it's not even a nut if we're just supposed to remember something we ALREADY saw on another scene of the show, so you can't bill anything-- it's only a nut if you PREDICT something that will happen in the future, it's not a nut if you REMEMBER something we already saw!
CB Note: It's not a nut per se, but still props go out to anyone who remembers small things like that - I think! So well done Rachel :)

39:00 - whoa. i cant believe abbadon just got nutted. musta been ben, right? i thought he was gonna be back the way he was involved in this ep, but i guess they just decided to have him back for one and kill him b/c of his role on Fringe.
RK Note: Makes me sad, I liked Abbadon
CB Note: Me too!

43:00 - man, i was gonna write above when locke said he only needed to convince one that he thought he just had to convince jack.

44:00 - hey, this note looks familiar!

45:00 - cb thinks there might be a "jack beard incontinuity"...
CB Note: Um YEA! When he found out Locke died/went to the funeral, he had massive scary Jack beard. But when Locke goes to see him, he's just starting the beard. It shouldn't have been that long from when he saw Jack til he tried to commit suidice. It looked like he did it later that day/the next day!!
RK Note: A lot of time passed BETWEEN Locke dying, and when Jack found OUT he died and went to the funeral, and we know a lot of time passed after that but before they all get together to go back to the island... So even though last night we were seeing them all after they got back to the island, and Locke right before he came back to the real world and then died, a lot of time passed after his death and the Losties returning together to the island-- during that time Jack flew back and forth a lot to Australia trying to crash, became an alcoholic, stopped being a doctor, had the crazy beard, etc.
CB Note: But how is that possible that a lot of time passed. You dont keep a dead guy unburied for a long time...and since he looked that good in his coffin, I doubt there was a lot of time between when he died and when he was found! So how can a lot of time have passed??

48:00 - ooh, such tension. what's gonna happen with john and ben!!!

49:00 - cb doesnt know who to trust - widmore or ben! i think we'll just have to wait til the end of the last season to find out!

50:00 - cb is all skeptical over this "why do they think john is so important stuff". i don't really understand why. ill let her explain in a note.
CB Note: Ok. So, I was just saying that they're all saying to John how important he is to the island, to the future of all the people etc etc etc, treating him like Jesus! I'm saying that I don't know if I buy the idea that they think he's so important because he went back in time and told them he was. That's all! But how do they all KNOW he's so important and why do they never say why?!
RK Note: Great question!

51:00 - jack just booked a ticket. must be his first. i dont think locke dies now. he doesnt die til later, not til jack spends a bit of time flying around like a loonytoon. that explains the beard situation.
RK Note: Clearly Jack flies back and forth a lot like a loonytoon AFTER Locke is already dead.

52:00 - ben's reaction to jin being alive is pretty strong. and shocked. he just thought jin was dead bc sayid told him? i dunno. this seems significant.
CB Note: It's like the in he needs to help convince? He was super shocked.

53:00 - oh...quadruple.. em..gee. my first reaction was that ben wanted to get back, or help john, but then when he killed john, he thought that eloise would expose him for being the true bad guy, which it certainly seems he is now. seeing as how he just killed john. cb immediately said something that's a better idea i think - ben himself wants to get back, and was using john to find a way, and he must think eloise is the way back. this seems like a good guess to me. im trying to remember her reaction when she met and talked to ben a few eps ago - it didn't seem hostile - they seemed like pals almost...
CB Note: So...either Ben already knew/knew of Eloise. Or was trying to find out from Locke how to get back. Maybe he just wanted to find out if Widmore knew how to get back just as he did? I think maybe he was already in with Eloise and maybe she told him that Locke had to die in order for it to work (something to do with Christian being dead in the original - and he after all did say Locke'd have to die)? So maybe he was just trying to get some details out of him and ensuring that he actually did die?
RK Note: Either some Ben knows Locke has to die TO get them back to the island and that he'll be reborn there, OR he wants to be the leader and is threatened by Locke being alive. But NEITHER makes sense as to why he killed him, because he was about to kill HIMSELF anyway, so why did Ben bother talking him out of suicide and then murdering him? How pointless, he could have just let Locke kill himself!

54:00 - cb's explanation is that ben views it as a way to get sun to go back - which of course is exactly what he did! but that would indicate ben really does want them all to come back. why? i don't get it. he def did in the last few eps also. but obvi just without john? ben killing john definitely jives with "ben wanting to be leader" widmore story.

55:00 - jack beard discrepancy now unexplained. and the time lag problem of jacks flying and trying to crash.
RK Note: Because they didn't go back to the island immediately after Locke dying! Clearly lots of time passed in between.

56:00 - Condolences guy saw the bright light and loud noise -> i thought other people not flashing didnt notice that.
RK Note: Maybe Condolences Guy is special somehow too?

57:00 - ben didnt flash, and there he is. john wont be happy!

great ep. enjoyed it alot. get noting!!

Monday, February 23, 2009

Heroes Feb 23

Heroes twice in one day... The pain... its unbearable...

1:00 - mm, thin mints! yay girl scouts!

2:00 - these 3 are the dumbest criminals ever? i feel like they would end upon Weekend Update.

3:00 - i got confused. i thought they'd captured HRG, whats he doing at a bar?
CB Note: The subtleties of replaying events go over J's head.
RK Note: LOL
LB Note: You know a show is going downhill when they start replaying scenes from previous episodes in their entirety to "recap".

4:00 - and how about this bartender - this guy passes out, and 3 dudes show up out of nowhere and drag him out of the bar... suuuuuuuuuuure.
CB Note: A guy who you think is new in town, staying at the hotel, and doesn't have a place to live.
RK Note: This show SUCKS!

5:00 - nice deal for hrg. severance pay and a golden parachute. like any good CEO of a failed Company deserves...
RK Note: This made me laugh out loud, I'm such a dork. Good thing the Company wasn't taking government funds, as golden parachutes are now banned under the new Treasury Guidelines and the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

6:00 - for some reason, i have to watch Heroes and blog it. but cb gets to look at Israel pictures. seems unfair to me...
CB Note: I was trying to upload pictures so I can get them printed. I have tried to do this 2 other times since we got back in August. Once, I added all the pictures I wanted to this uploader program and at some point my computer rebooted and I had to start over. At some point I did, went through maybe 6 of the 10 days worth of pictures and uploaded them. But apparently this website I use deletes pictures after 6 weeks. So they were gone and I had to start over again. I'm just trying to get it done before the year anniversary of our trip! Heroes seemed like the perfect time to do it!

7:00 - im hungry. i wish i had a pez. or a reeses peanut butter cup.

8:00 - oh mohinder, always the voice of caution. except last season of course, Mr. Cocoon.

9:00- that was a newb crossword hrg was doing. NYT for life yo.
RK Note: I can't even do a crossword puzzle that isn't an NYT, they're so lame

10:00 - also, since im always complaining, i suppose i should say that, conceptually, this episode at least has potential to be good. no worries, however, im sure it wont be.

11:00 - sure looks like nathan is using claire to blackmail hrg into helping him.

12:00 - omg, cb just opened the picture of the Devil's Ass!!!! (put it in a cbnote babe)
CB Note:

LB Note: Kibbutz ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



13:00 - what's behind that locked door? is it molly? (in an apartment on the upper west side, rk thinks, "who is molly?")
RK Note: I know who Molly is! I can keep the characters on THIS show straight, its not like Rome where it's so boring and everyone lookes the same

14:00 - only so much crossword puzzles you can do, hrg? first of all, just not true. second, for a guy who supposedly does a lot of crosswords, that was a wussy one you were doing!
CB Note: Yay for crosswords!
Rk Note: Love crosswords.
LB Note: He should try some KenKen

15:00 - why is parkman yelling at peter, lol.

16:00 - i just figured how who these 3 bumbling criminals remind me of. its like im watching adam sandler, brendan fraser, and steve buscemi in...
CB Note: Airheads! I loved that movie!!!
RK Note: I don't think I ever saw that! I should! I love Steve Buscemi.

17:00 - go ahead, think it over, give it a guess.

18:00 - give up?

19:00 - AIRHEADS!!!!!!

20:00 - should cb and i watch tonite's House after this even though we wont see last week's til its online tommorow?
CB Note: Spoiler note - we watched it!!!! :)
LB Note: Why are you not blogging House!?!?

21:00 - nice job peter flying outta there!

22:00 - my first thought was that he shoudla had mindreading from parkman. but then i remembered he now has to touch to get a power. cb was perplexed also. now cb thinks he had nathans last. i just cant remember.
CB Note: He had Nathan's from when Ali made that stupid meeting and ended up getting screwed. He wa holding Nathan with a gun to his head, then flew off. So I guess he hasn't even accidentally touched Mohinder or Parkman. Not likely!
RK Note: SO STUPID!

23:00 - hrg sure dont like the military guy! i bet they have a falling out, and hrg caps his rear.

24:00 - did we see this mohinder-hrg scene a few eps ago? after peter got out of the car? i cant remember. or wait, was that hrg capturing mohinder? i dont remember. i thought hrg helped set up mohinder in like ep 2? lalala.

25:00 - hrg escaped.... cb called them newbs. i just think they are airheads.

26:00 - SAVE TEH TAXPAYER. SAVE TEH WORLD. YARRRGH!!!

27:00 - convenient that peter returned at that moment.
CB Note: And landed on that exact car.
LB Note: This was the most bizarre scene ever. So dumb.

28:00 - cb knew they were gonna re-catch hrg. bc she figured we'd get to see rest of the memories.

29:00 - omg a funny line! "it turns out he was still middle management"

30:00 - hrg is meeting bad guy. cb and i decided to makeout a lil. then i stopped to get back to blogging, and she told me the making out was better than Heroes.
RK Note: Um, I sure HOPE the making out was better than Heroes. My root canal was better than Heroes.

31:00 - i wish we could watch The Dollhouse instead. for that matter, i wish cb would go back to watching Buffy on hulu with me. we were on like season 2 ep 17! oh willow you hottie!

32:00 - commercial: "cant wait to see whats next on heroes??? you can..." i think the commercial coulda stopped right there. frankly, i could wait forever... and ever... and ever ever... IM SORRY MISS JACKSON!!
RK Note: Can we please just quit? This is horrendous.

33:00 - peter - dont be a moron. just kill this dbag.

34:00 - nathan showed up. cb said, he got there fast!! i was like, he flew! then dbag was like "howd you get here so fast?!" and we lolled.
LB Note: LOL. They're probably setting up for when army dude discovers nathan has powers and turns on him...or as the scenes from the next week said, "goes rogue." Also, creepy that he has his own place monitored...methinks someone is secretly videotaping his female friends and putting them on the itnernet...

35:00 - way to shoot him in the arm peter, you wuss. what are you, a nurse? you couldnt last 5 minutes with House.

36:00 - is daphne really alive....?!?!

37:00 - what a great plan these idiots have... sit in the room and wait to get caught lol. i was originally positive they had already moved rooms to a different place.

38:00 - how did daphne survive getting shot in the chest 5x?
RK Note: Preposterous

39:00 - great job mohinder. way to hold them up for 30 seconds. also, didnt they shoot him like 10 times judging by the sound effects, but just pull 2 things out? i dont thnk Heroes would have won the oscar for best sound editing, or sound mixing.

40:00 - cb is all confused. i cant tell if its bc shes not paying attention, or bc she really couldnt tell that peter threw that exploding canister thingy in order to save parkman.
CB Note: I was on Israel Day 3.
LB Note: Was Israel Day 3 the day we had Mall #2 falafel?

41:00 - it kinda looked like hrg may have wanted peter to save parkman. couldnt tell.

42:00 - nathan, youre such a good guy. pro containment instead of execution. great plan! and a formula to take away powers. didnt mohinder spend a season trying to do that?

43:00 - dbag is complaining about hrg violating protocol. he totes wanted parkman to get saved!
RK Note: He totally did, but this show is so bad its not even fun to make nuts about it.

44:00 - the rest of that scene was gibberish though.

45:00 - good thing nobody noticed mama p sitting right there. these govt guys are newbs too.

46:00 - what's mama plotting?! wasnt she telling hrg 4 weeks ago she was through!
LB Note: It all has to do with that watch somehow. Save the watch, save the world...

47:00 - "they better not be hiding out at isaac's apartment" - cb. they are TOTES there!
LB Note: YOu'd think they'd have figured out to monitor Isaac's apartment by now!

48:00 - omg. a giant explosion painted on the floor!!! how will they stop it?!?!? recycle more plots please.
CB Note: He literally just painted over Isaac's original season 1 exploding NYC with the DC skyline.
RK Note: Really, no one has done anything with Isaac's apartment since he died a long time ago? That is valuable real estate, you'd think the landlord would want to rent the place out again.

it is an absolute crime that this show hasnt been cancelled, but Pushing Daisies was. im so close to boycotting all television.
They cancelled Veronica Mars and not this? They cancelled Arrested Development and not this? They cancelled Reunion and not this? They cancelled Kidnapped and not this? They cancelled The Nine and not this? I could go on and on and on about the injustices of television.

Heroes Cont'd!

The votes are in, and unfortunately, the viewing shall continue. I've never said this before, but boy i wish the internet was down!!
LB Note: The decision is not appealable and you may not vote us out of office. Fortunately the show will be cancelled soon...

1:00 - what were the votes for who "Rebel" was? that texted claire? i SOOOOOOOhope its West. that would be the funniest by far...

2:00 - and now Rebel is texting claire to help him. this plotline is so ridiculous!

3:00-Cb throws out that she thinks its Hiro. thats a good guess i think. cb notes the broken english texting. i think that secret vague texts are the kind of thing that hiro would do.
LB Note: Oooooh that's a great nut!!!! I vote for CB on this one.

4:00 - not only has he been telling you that since you were 15 claire, he's been telling us for 4 seasons. and im booooooooooooooooored.

5:00 - claire is starting community college? and shes taking all of 3 classes? what is this, my 2nd semester senior year? is she mm 3L spring? also, did i miss the ep where she GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL!!
CB Note: She took the GED, it was mentioned at the beginning of the season.

6:00 - this Rebel sure is a stalker!!

7:00 - great idea, double the funding from the white house!

8:00 - yea lets get pie and milkshakes!!!! awesome idea sylar junior!
CB Note: Mmmm pie.

9:00 - if i were sylar, id just torture that little kid.

10:00 - oh man, he got caught on this awesome London-esque video recognition camera under a bridge IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE!!! if there is a camera at that rinkydink bridge, then there would be cameras EVERYWHERE and theyd ALREADY KNOW where EVERY ONE of the heroes is.
LB Note: Now you're just being very ungenerous. The show is after all about people with super powers. I think we can suspend disbelief to think that there's a traffic cam at random bridge.

11:00 - claire is putting in an Oscar winning performance right now at the comic bookstore. in an ironic twist, do you think maybe one of those dolphins off the coast of japan stole her acting abilities?
LB Note: Did I not nut that Clare would have a new love interest?

12:00 - how did the Rebel know that was where hrg was going? He must be an inside rebel!
LB Note: Hiro is omnipresent...

13:00 - so, i was typing, and cb was reading my typing, and hiro was babbling, and then we realized wed miss like 6 lines of dialogue and had to rewind. lets see if we really had to rewind...

14:00 - well, guess i needed to knowthey were in india. also, i definitely did not want to miss that awesome "when destiny calls" joke. that joke was so good, that i cant believe they didnt lay it all on the line with a "Stop the wedding, save the world" promo this week...
CB Note: I'm kind of over all the same lines over and over every season. "It's my destiny" "I must answer" "I don't need powers to be a hero"

15:00 - ive also thrown in a "the wedding is already over" nut.

16:00 - great dialogue with ando and wedding girl. cb wonders if this is mohinder's sister. i think we mentioned that last week, but i cant remember.
CB Note: I was searching for a LOST sized twist that would actually make the show more interesting.

17:00 - this girl is the DUMBEST. she asked the heavens for a sign as to whether she should get married... and then a japanese guy randomly walks into an empty banquet hall...
LB Note: Doesn't Ando's "power"look like Rayden from Mortal Combat...?

18:00 - hellooooooooooooo abby collins... an abby topless scene could really turn this show around i think...

19:00 - this nathan-abby scene is SO BAD. the writing, the dialogue, the acting, the plot, the political references, everything.

20:00 - sylar - after you kill luke, can you kill me too?

21:00 - wait,whats going on? i was too busy eating popcorn. sylar was sold for a six-pence?

22:00 - man, i totally thought abby would let ali out of the chair and then ali would go nuts. raisin!

23:00 - at least my mint green tea is good.
LB Note: Oooh I want some mint green tea...

24:00 - so, any guesses waht comic book dude's power is?

25:00 - Gillman!!! Gill-igan? no cb, he's not Aquaman. thats so Entourage season 3 of you. how about... Fishface?

26:00 - phew, good thing claire figured it out just in time!!

27:00 - this indian girl-ando plot is so unbelievable. i mean, heroes with superpowers and genetic mutations are more believable than this plot...

28:00 - Deepak?! he won jeopardy twice last week! this guy is dangerous!!!

29:00 - how did ando get powers? why was he injected?
He injected himself cause he thought it was the only way for him to save Hiro when Hiro was trapped in the past without powers. Remember, we laughed at him thinking he could get any power he wanted. Then he supercharged Daph back in time to save Hiro.

30:00 - wait, this isnt the deepak from jeopardy...

31:00 - OHMYGOD HES GOT A POT AND HES NOT AFRAID TO USE IT!!!

32:00 - quick, GET A LOAF OF BREAD!!!

33:00 - what was that, a fight scene from The Bourne Supremacy?

34:00 - Hamlet thinks this show is terrible. "Three Oinks!!! OINK OINK OINK"

35:00 - i was tearing up at the end of that emotional sylar-luke scene...

36:00 - what, i was! honest!!!

37:00 - ok ok, i had my fingers crossed.
LB Note: Methinks there needs to be slightly more detail in these blogging notes Mr Nash...

38:00 - why wouldnt they just shoot sylar in the back of the head... why wait? also, once he flings the guy behind him, why would hte 2 dudes with SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPONS shoot him 5 times in the chest... AND NOT IN THE HEAD!!!!
CB Note: They're obviously not trained very well in Hero Combat.

39:00 - im rooting for the government guys from now on, even tho they suck. i figure if they capture all the heroes, then the show will be over...

40:00 - oh man, hiro's gonna stop the wedding just like in the drawing! what a twist!!!

41:00 - also, it appears she is not in fact mohinder's sister.

42:00 - but, she did just call this guy "grandfather"...

43:00 - how on earth was hiro allowed to just roll into this wedding?

44:00 - what baby? that could actually be an interesting twist...

45:00 - that hiro butter-knife and "woohoo im a hero" yell scene was terrible...
CB Note: This guy is supposed to be an extremely dangerous and evil man. You're telling me he was frightened off by Hiro and a butter knife?? So plausible....
LB Note: I had the same reaction! I was like ummm, can't he get is private militia in or something. I just hope for the sake of plausibility that he comes back and tries to get revenge or something. A butter knife...so ridic!

46:00 - oooh, good one liner claire... nobody can control you. youre kim bauer!

47:00 - umm, it was ali larter season 1 that had super strength ability... sigh.

48:00 - bummer for that dead iced guy that the FIVE GUYS WITH STUN GUNS decided to not shoot the OMG ITS A SUPER DANGEROUS KILLING MACHINE HERO until AFTER she iced him. is there nobody in the writers' room with the balls to stand upand say "are you kidding me?" when they come up with these awful scenes?

49:00 - of course, they could impress me if they now reveal it was all a set up for abby and ali was allowed to escape and ice that guy in front of her. i dont think they are that smart tho.

50:00 - after a bad claire scene, it turns out that it WAS a set up! of course, since ali the idiot apparently knew that, she coulda just NOT iced that guy, in order to screw nathan, and get the funding stopped, and subsequently get freed... so....
LB Note: I was literally yelling at my TV. Why the fuck wouldn't she just not ice the guy. And then she says something like "next time I will escape." What!?! She could have just walked up and been like, they're crazy, I dont' have powers, get me out of here and walked out!

51:00 - sylar saved luke! what the F changed in the last 15minutes to make sylar save him and take him with instead of finding him annoying and leaving him behind? what, nothing changed? so there's no explanation? surprise!!!
LB Note: Sylar realizes that Luke is his half brother and that he enjoys his company. Sylar realizes he shouldn't be bad and that he can control the hunger. Sylar backtracks and kills Luke on the beach...oh wait, we've seen this plot before.


52:00 - cb and i both picked Quebec in their 4pm Curling match versus Alberta in espn's Streak for the Cash today.

53:00 - The Rebel sent a fax to hiro and ando in india!! a) guess it wasnt hiro. b) guess it isnt West, this is a little too high tech for him. c) it appears that it has to be somebody on the inside, and with a "see the future power" bc he sent that fax before they were in india. do you think that 1) its a hero we already know or 2) a new hero and therefore un-nuttable?
CB Note: I can't imagine it could be anyone we already know and have it be believable. Angela Petrelli? But why?
LB Note: What if it's Hiro in the future...? I believe future Hiro has contacted present Hiro before...

54:00 - i actually chuckled when sylar turned on the radio.

55:00 - cb wants to know how he had blood - he was frozen. i want to know how long it takes to clean up some spilled blood - apparently all day and night!

56:00 - so,who's taking out hrg?

57:00 - it was parkman peter and mohinder!
LB Note: I found it so creepy that they Roofied HRG...

Wednesday, February 18, 2009

LOST Feb 18, 2009

1:00 - ooh i forgot they were all at mama faraday's!
CB Note: Seriously, what is wrong with your memory? Should you be taking vitamins or something?

2:00 - cb's talking about the first ep, i dunno why.
CB Note: Oh, I don't know. Perhaps because this episode started in the EXACT SAME WAY as the first ep?

3:00 - wait, this cant be real. how is jack on the island in a suit. with a note that says "i wish (upon a star)"
RK Note: Not that I have screenshots to prove it, but at this point I nutted they were showing how they get back to the island

4:00 - whats hurley doing with a guitar in a waterfall? cb says its charlies guitar!

5:00 - so, i kinda wonder if this is them getting back to the island for the first time.
CB Note: Gee, ya think?

6:00 - and they just found kate! sorta seems like a nut at 5:00. this aint no crazy dream-o!
CB Note: No nut. You wrote at 3:00 that it can't be real. We've discussed this! You can't say it's either A or Not A and then count one of them as a nut!
RK Note: SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:00 - "yea, we're back.." - jack. nutnutnutnutnutnutnutnut.
CB Note: See previous CB Note.
RK Note: Ditto

8:00 - umm - how will it have to do for now? 3-4 eps ago you said the fate of the world depended on having all of them!
RK Note: Perhaps Mrs. Hawking knows that somehow they will all wind up together... But WHY does Aaron not need to come, or does he need to come?

9:00 - mmm, pear and raspberry valentines day pie... gobble gobble gobble!
CB Note: :)

10:00 - i missed a dharma logo while typing apparently. but that doesn't make sense, bc dharma is versus ben. literally, as im typing this cb echoes my thoughts out loud. well done, babe. explanations pls!
CB Note: Well, we know that Hawking was in Dharma...and yet she is working with Ben now. A lot has gone down that we don't know about.

11:00 - The Lamp Post!! how they found the island! guess that explains are skepticism in 10:00. frankly, that room reminded me of that story about the pendulum from high school. was it a poe?
CB Note: Cool fact from lostpedia:
The DHARMA Initiative station, The Lamp Post is a reference to The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe, the second book in the Narnia series. In the book, a lamp-post marks the passage between Narnia and the real world. In the episode, The Lamp Post serves a similar function with regard to the Island. In addition, the opening scene of the episode is a reference to the first chapter of Prince Caspian, the fourth book in the Narnia series. In the chapter, entitled "The Island," the children in the book return to Narnia via a mysterious island with ancient ruins. The first thing they do is play in the water.
12:00 - cb finished her pie slice. she stole it from me actually. i had to get another.

13:00 - oink oink oink!!

14:00 - no, that wasn't cb after eating her pie. that was Hamlet aka Piggums, our newest stuffed lil mo!!!
CB Note:

RK Note: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

15:00 - mama faraday has a picture from 1954 of island, cb points out while im busy typing that pig introduction. looks good for those out there who predicted daniel was talking to his own moms on the island!
RK Note: That was me! That was me! That young Ellie girl from 1954 is Mrs. Hawking!!! And I am so nutting that Widmore is Faraday's dad!

16:00 - ooh, also, fyi, we have a special surprise for lb next game nite. im not gonna say any more though. the suspense will torture you all, so you finally come over again!!

17:00 - who built the pendulum? cb and i both guess widmore.

18:00 - so, the island is always moving? is it moving through space and time as well? and the equations will tell where in space it will be at future points in time?

19:00 - oh, good thing they have 36 hours left, apparently.

20:00 - not a very good message! shoulda told desmond more! desmond just confirmed for the slow audience that she was indeed ring woman from 2-3 seasons ago.
CB Note: Nut.

21:00 - cb was yelling out "ajira" way in advance. thats the crash our Losties found! well done cb!!
RK Note: So when they flashed to the future that time on the island they WERE about 3 years in the future! And whoever nutted (Caryn I think) that it could be the oceanic 6 chasing the on-island losties shooting after them in the canoe raft things could be correct!!! although perhaps they didnt know it was the on-island losties who stole the raft, or else why would they shoot?

22:00 - why do they need to recreate the circumstances? why dont they just jump out of the plane at the appropriate time? they cant make the plane crash again by coincidence - we were told it happened bc desmond forgot to push the button!!!
RK Note: And seriously, trying to fly on a plane is the ONLY way to get back? Didn't Ben just used to have a good old submarine that went back and forth? And other secret ways of getting back? How is this the only way?

23:00 - mama faraday apparently knows lots of old school island lore, referring to all these potential catastrophes...

24:00 - locke hanged himself! he wrote jack a suicide note?! did ben hint an ep or two ago that john was alive? or i guess we'll just get to have him alive on the island in his old self.

25:00 - here's a good idea mama faraday - john could be on the plane.. AS JOHN!!!
Rk Note: I KNOW right?!?!?!?! I mean, John was on the original Oceanic flight... why does he need to be a proxy for Christian? It completely does not make sense. Unless there is some reason they needed a DEAD body on the plane?

26:00 - a promise to an old friend?! cb just immediately yelled out in a frightened voice... "penny?!?!" - ben told widmore he was gonna kill penny!!! ohnoes! amazing nut by cb if its right!
RK Note: See MY thought was that Ben was off to get Sayid somehow

27:00 - i have NO CLUE who this old guy is...

28:00 - this granddad plot is outta nowhere. cb guessed it was to get something of dads! Freckles! thats what sawyer called her!
RK Note: Again, retarded. Jack didn't have ANY other of his father's thing?

29:00 - cb is totes on fire this ep... jacob's shoes!

30:00 - F. i guessed sayid in jack's room. cb guessed kate... :(

31:00 - did they take aaron from kate? i bet so... seems like it. gj me. ill take any nut i can get tonite!

32:00 - whoa, wtf happened to aaron. kate is freaky! did he get taken? did she hide him somehow? im going with some kind of secret hiding.
RK Note: I nutted immediately that she gave Aaron to Claire's mom, although I'm not sure why this is such a big secret that she can't tell Jack about it, and I'm not sure what on earth made her decide to do it. What an awful faux mother! Only potentially worse mom on this show is Sun with her actual biological child.

33:00 - *makeout
RK Note: Yay to Jack and Kate hooking up again! They belong together.

34:00 - after i make a pretty darn good guess that kate put him in hiding, cb idly says "maybe she gave him to claire's mom?" . that is SO CORRECT. wtf is going on tonite?! cb's notes tommorrow should be called Mr. Peanut Nuts.
RK Note: See above!

35:00 - awkward talk in the kitchen... i guess they didnt have a morning session...

36:00 - man that was awkward. and kate just left. was jack not very good in the you know what?
CB Note: Sigh at your horrible attempts at sexual humor.

37:00 - whoa ben is in trouble. what happened?! did he have a run in with widmore's men? a failure on the penny kill? oooh tell uss!
RK Note: OR did he have a run-in with Sayid? That is my nut

38:00 - cb thinks it should be so cold in there that we should see jacks breath, like at Soldier Field, or the Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field...

39:00 - oh triple noes. jack, read that note! there might be instructions you amazing dolthead!!!

40:00 - who is THAT guy?! fishyyyyyyyyyyyyy condolences says i.

41:00 - Parenting by Sun: what daughter?
RK Note: I KNOW right?

42:00 - how did sayid get under arrest? what happened? my first reaction, like cb's, was sayid under arrest like kate was. but, um - how? why? going to guam? huh?
RK Note: Perhaps Sayid was arrested for beating the crap out of Ben!! Which Ben probably intentionally orchestrated and went and found Sayid but tipped off the cops that there was going to be an incident there and like provoked Sayid into kicking the shit out of him and then the cops came and arrested Sayid before he could finish the job and kill Ben altogether. But why he needs to be extradited to Guam I'm not sure, but I bet somehow Ben had something to do with it!

43:00 - well, that explains charlie's guitar.

44:00 - oh, brilliant hurley! buying all the seats so when it crashes nobody dies!

45:00 - good questoin jack, how DID hurley know?!?! i got nuttin.
RK Note: Well Ben hired that lawyer to get Hurley arraigned and out of jail in the morning, so he probably got Hurley out of jail without saying that he worked for Ben, and probably told Hurley he worked for Charlie or something that would make Hurley believe him, and gave Hurley the info about the plane and convinced him that he had to get back to the island and this was how and he'd be safe there.

46:00 - and, btw, bummer for the flight crew...

47:00 - cb noticed weird guy is on the plane... and ben too omgeeeeeeeee. did ben tell hurley somehow w/o him knowing it?
RK Note: What is UP with condolences guy?! Something fishy there.

48:00 - read. that. letter. NOW!!!

49:00 - btw, good thing the flight wasnt delayed by smog or a storm... they'd have missed the island!
RK Note: I thought that too!!!!

50:00 - comfy seats on ajira air, fyi. lets take that to israel next time.

51:00 - W.H.O.A. ITS FRANK THE PILOT!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

52:00 - frank is about ot get freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaked!!!

53:00 - no frank. we are NOT going to guam.

54:00 - ben's mom did NOT teach him to read. just fyi.
CB Note: Ben was reading James Joyce's Ulysses, which is a story about the journey through Dublin on a single day (June 16, 1904) by its main character, Leopold Bloom and was based on the ancient myth of Odysseus, a lost sailor who is kept from his love, Penelope, by a series of wildly unbelievable and thrilling adventures. The last chapter is titled "Penelope."

55:00 - any predictions for what the letter says? i think it should be some kind of instructions...

56:00 - ouch. guess ben nutted it...

57:00 - think condolences guy is a dharma guy? he is fishers! im still wondering how exactly they are going to explain this crash...

58:00 - also, weren't there other people in a raft from the plane that were shooting at our Losties from an ep or 2 ago?
RK Note: We know the plane crashes from when they flashed through time and they had the Ajira water!!! So how did some of the plane crash and some of it flash some Losties into the water?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

59:00 - based on the white light, it seems that the island just caught them in a time shift??? but then they wouldnt have crashed. also, we know that time shifts only affect our Losties, not other people. they dont even notice! hmmmm.
RK Note: HOW are they gonna explain this?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

60:00 - great bit with letter.

61:00 - cb just grabbed my shirt while i was typing, and started tugging it, and exclaiming... "they flashed.... they flashed!!!!!" i will now show her hte previous 2 blog entries and gloat. then, i predict she will slap me...

62:00 - i got a raisin. instead of slapping me, she gave me attitude. in truth, i was only on it like 15 seconds earlier. and, im concerned that it doesnt make a lot of sense - there cant be crash parts and the people on the plane shouldnt have noticed...

63:00 - JIN?!?!?! and he's wearing a dharma outfit?!?!?! he must have flashed into the past? howd he get separated from the Losties left on the island though?
RK Note: Maybe he's NOT separated from the Losties. Maybe he is at the same time period when we saw Dan Faraday with the Dharma jumpsuit on posing as a Dharma member. Maybe the Losties who are together now with Jin flash through time together, but its a LONG enough time flash that they somehow manage to infiltrate the Dharma initiatve and pose as Dharma members for a little while in the past, and so Jin is just wandering around being all Dharm-y when he finds them. Maybe now he'll reunite them with Sawyer and Faraday and Juliet and stuff who maybe are all ALSO posing as Dharma members. OR then they'll all flash into another time period together until they are able to stop the time flashes. But there must be people from the crash from Ajyra who are NOT flashing through time who were the ones chasing in the raft from a few episodes ago. So Kate and Jack and Hurley are traveling through time in sync with Jin and maybe the other losties with the Flashes, but some Ajira ppl just plain old CRASHED, the flight crew and passengers and maybe Sayid and Ben and Frank etc, and THEY are back at the beach with the rafts and the water on a normal time pace 3 years in the future and were the ones who did the chasing in the canoe?

64:00 - epic next week - the mystery of john locke's death explained!!! and locke-widmore scenes!

TERRIFIC first and last 20minutes or so of this ep. top top notch. woohoo.
CB Note: So, the obvious theory is that they flew over the island, there was a flash and they got transported down to the island at whatever time period it's in. BUT, in scenes from next week, we see that there are non original 815ers on the island now too. So how could that be if only our Losties are supposed to move with the flashes? And if the only other non-Lostie people who do come to the island with them are the weird condolences guy and sayid's cop girl, then that would insinuate that perhaps they are plants or dharma people or sent by Hawking for some reason.

Now, about them back on the island...it would seem that they've returned back in the 70s. Meaning, now that they're back are the flashes going to stop, but they're all stuck at that time? Or since Aaron hasn't returned with them, does it mean that they aren't going to save the island afterall? And why is Jin driving the Dharma VW and wearing the Dharma outfit? Is he really working for them now? And he looked a lot better/cleaner/healed since last we saw him on the island.

Monday, February 16, 2009

Heroes Feb 16

First off, some administrative things: it appears that a certain former postal employee did not write his notes for Lost OR Heroes last week!!! second, B.R.A. did not write her Heroes notes - im certainly not blogging ANTM if you are going to make me blog heroes and then not note it!!!

1:00 - apparently we arent the only ones who think this show is terrible. our DVR just froze when we attmpted to play it... twice.

2:00 - three times. im beginning to fear that we just wont be able to watch Heroes this week!!! (good thing this didnt happen during last nite's 4 Houses on USA!)

So, now it tells us that it only taped Heroes from 8:59-8:59. cb says we'll have to watch it later this week online, but i say, if this isn't a sign from the Flying Spaghetti Monster to quit watching this trainwreck, then i dunno what it is!

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

LOST Feb 11

lets hope its a good one!!! we sure need it, after that heroes...

1:00 - what terrible timing on this phone call to sun! its like a perfectly timed walk in, even faker.
RK Note: Why would Sun ever go to the island and leave her baby behind? What kind of mother is she??! I'm so glad nothing happened to the baby, but how could Sun ever abandon her?!?!?!

2:00 - caryn wonders if sun is kidnapping aaron? im not sure. that would be so ridiculous, right?
RK Note: Definitely not. But why is she maybe possibly working for or with Widmore? Just to kill Ben for revenge on Jin, or is there something more? And also, if Jin were dead, it would be WAY more Widmore's fault than Ben's anyway!
CB Note: Sun said on the phone to her daughter that she "met a new friend for her" talking about Aaron. All I said was that sounded like an odd statement, like was she planning on bringing Aaron back with her.

3:00 - hows he gonna prove it?! and... if its been 3 years... and some of them saw locke, why didn't she get to find out before?
RK Note: Remind me who saw Locke off the island alive and when and how?
CB Note: We know that Locke went to see Walt, Hurley, Kate, and Jack. And we know that Ben went to see Locke.

4:00 - hey, its the numbers! think theyll ever explain that?
RK Note: They better. I like how they brought back Season 1 goodies this ep, like Rousseau and the Black Smoke Monster and the Numbers

5:00 - umm. if he knows how to get from here to the tower, and he knows how to get from the tower to the camp... lets put it this way: a->b, b->c, therefore, a->c
RK Note: Also how come sometimes Jin understands english perfectly and other times, not so much, like they have to draw pictures in the sand for him
CB Note: All the english Jin learned came from being on the island, either Sun trying to teach him or him picking it up from hearing others. So he doesn't understand everything perfectly, and I'd imagine when he's sort of freaking out, it must get more confusing to try to piece together what people are saying. Also, the island is large and confusing, so I wouldn't get annoyed with Jin initially saying he doesn't know how to get back to his camp from the exact spot their in. If the tower is in the center of the island, then no matter where Jin is, he can figure out how to get there and once he's there, he can figure out his way back to his camp more easily. Also, the french guys were pushing him to show them, so that's why he agreed, not because there was no other way to find his camp.

6:00 - fyi - faraday tells them they cant change things in the past. but it sure seems like jin is gonna change a lot if he doesnt flash out of there?!
RK Note: Or was it already this way back in 1988 and Jin had already helped to save Rousseau back in time!
CB Note: I was gonna say what RK did.

7:00 - nice! caryn and i both nutted black smoke, before jin confirmed "monster".
RK Note: HOW can this black smoke monster be explained? I'm glad they brought it back, which means eventually they have to explain it to us.

8:00 - wheres the black smoke taking him? its lair?
RK Note: How come black smoke monster only rears its head so sporadically, especially when new ppl come to the island and run into it?
CB Note: This is similar to when the black smoke tried to take John. It tried to pull him down a hole too.

9:00 - of note, remember the fence around the dharma camp a season or 2 ago was used to keep the black smoke monster out i think. so dharma needed protection against it i think. did the others too? or is it on the others side?
RK Note: That fence was awesome. I also wonder to all of your questions at 9:00, excellent questions.

10:00 - that place looks like some kind of old stone temple... maybe the people who built the giant foot with 4 toes circa season 1 or 2? (that sure never got explained!)
RK Note: Great nut! AND is Jacob involved with them? Is Richard Alpert as old as them and an original native?
CB Note: The temple was also mentioned by Ben in the past when his people were being attacked by the Kahana soldiers. He tried to send Alex there, saying it was the only safe place left on the island.

11:00 - that arm woulda decomposed i say!!
CB Note: It was only a little decomposed cause it was only a short while later =p

12:00 - do the dew, jin!

13:00 - oh - totally random, a time travel ting i thought of 2 weeks ago or a week ago, when sawyer saw kate and claire - how awesome would it have been if in season 1 like sawyer walked in on it, and then kate made some comment an ep later about it but he seemed confused then they just ignored it for 5 seasons and THEN we see that scene with it being future sawyer who walked in? that woulda been AWESOME.

14:00 - wheres jin at? hey, mr rousseau called it a temple too! super small time jump this time. amazing seeing this crazy doublecross against danielle, by everyone who went in the temple, who apparently became bad guys, or evil smoke people, or who knows what. are the others part of the group that built and used the temple, or did the others come after the real natives?
RK Note: Wow, when Danielle said her people got sick... who knew the black smoke monster was responsible!! Also, we know from the pillar of smoke that this was the night she gave birth and the Others took away her baby Alex! Anyone else pick up on that? When I saw the pillar of smoke I nutted that btw, either the other night of the pillar of smoke with Claire.
CB Note: I said that to Justin when we were watching, but of course he doesn't choose to include anything good I might say while he blogs! The pillar of smoke appeared before the Others came and took Alex, a week after her birth. It appeared again after Claire had Aaron and Danielle freaked out and tried to bring Aaron to try to exchange him for Alex.

15:00 - caryn says we knew charlotte spoke korean, lol.
RK Note: Of course we knew that!

16:00 - looks like they're not gonna be back in 72 hours at this rate!
CB Note: It was 70 hours, not 72.

17:00 - creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy. charlotte maybe dead, then shouting at jin in korean, then calling this place death and telling them not to bring sun back! what will jin do? will he try to stop locke? is there significance to the "this place is death" line? and that temple? and, does charlotte know anything else that hasn't been revealed to us yet, part of her past? so far, she hasn't really done anything useful, we don't know why shes there, not like faraday.
RK Note: OMG did I somehow not tell you Arielle's awesome nut from last week? Arielle nutted that Charlotte was the little girl on the island Ben was friends with in Dharma.
CB Note: We nutted that too. (Me before J tho) Also, we don't know if Faraday really was there in the past, or will go back in time to little girl Charlotte after an island flashes them back in time, or if he's sort of like a never-aging Richard (since he looked pretty much the same when Desmond went to see him in the past, and we've seen him with the Dharma peeps, we dont know his deal yet). A further also, Charlotte said "don't being HER back" so technically she could mean their daughter, instead of Sun.

18:00 - lot of traffic in the middle of the nite ben?

19:00 - whats ben done to keep them all safe? or is he just lying and being trixxy?

20:00 - ancient carthage! so, a) shes floating through time in her own head now. b) what was that marrying an american comment about? c) thats why charlottes there - her archaeology anthropology - that carthage line was important i think - shes there to study that ancient society that built the temple! and the big foot!
RK Note: What IS that marrying American comment about? Also I think she might be there more to study the island of her childhood, but maybe also the ancient society of the foot. But I think mostly Dharma because when she found that polar bear in the desert with the Dharma tag she was all thrilled.
CB Note: Carthage was located in what is modern-day Tunisia, where Charlotte was doing field work before being recruited to the Kahana's mission.

31:00 - jinx!

32:00 - after it vanished, i said "look for the well!" -> nut nut nutteroo.
CB Note: Not a nut. Charlotte told him to look for the well. You can't nut something that was specifically said 1 minute earlier on the show!

33:00 - good question miles. how did she know?

34:00 - why did ben shoot charlotte last season?
CB Note: Because she was one of the people from Widmore's boat who he believed wanted to capture him.

35:00 - as soon as charlotte started talking, that she grew up on the island, im all "pause pause pause wheres the remote" b/c im workin through a nut in my head, and caryn is whispering "annie annie" excitedly. and we finally pause it and im like "baby, who is annie? is that ben little girlfriend from the island? thats who i bet she is!!!"
RK Note: I can't believe I didn't tell you about Arielle's nut of this last week!!!

36:00 - ok, we just hit play - lets see who she was!

37:00 - whoa, what scary man told charlotte shed have to leave and never come back, otherwise she'd die??

38:00 - omg it was faraday!!!!!! (caryn didnt say it, but she's saying she was gonna and wants it counted as a nut. we'll leave it to a vote!)
RK Note: He totally must have told her when in the future he goes back in time posing as a Dharma member to try and save her. But it so doesn't work because you can't change the past or something! Charlotte's gonna die anyway! Not like Heroes with alternate futures. I like it better when there are rules with time travel like in Lost. Maybe Dan is crazy in the future because of too much time travel and thats why he scares little Char? Or is he just crazy as he is to a little kid?

39:00 - how does faraday tell young charlotte this? do they flash back in time and he sees her and tells her not to come back? wouldnt that muck up the you cant change things, thing? i suppose hes gonna tell her around the time we saw him in that episode when he was wearing a dharma uniform at the orchid...
RK Note: Oh wow, same thoughts. See above.

40:00 - i cant remember much about bens little gf, but caryn told me that we dont know what happened to her.
RK Note: Apparently she left the island with her mom before Ben killed them all! When she was 9 I think she said. Also did I tell you guys how I think Widmore is Faraday's dad? I wonder who Charlotte's dad is.

41:00 - um, what if he had his fingers crossed?

42:00 - so - caryn and i both think the ring will be the proof hes alive. plus, why would ben and locke not just lie.

47:00 - so, is charlotte really dead? if so, im kinda upset. she never really did anything important....

53:00 - who is it?! i went with jacob, cb went richard. frankly, i think i kinda win... NUT NUT NUT!
JN Note: RK, where's my love for this nut? creepy footsteps, locke at the wheel, tense who's it gonna be music, and i nail it -> jacob!
CB Note: I did not go Richard. I said Christian. J doesn't accurately represent anything I say!

54:00 - ruh roh, hes not happy - he told john to do it, not ben! did ben know that john shoulda done it instead?

55:00 - i bet hes sending john to mama faraday!

56:00 - btw, how creepy is jacob - what is his deal? will we get to learn that?
RK Note: We better!!!!

57:00 - when do you think john will appear off the island? what time? last season we heard that bentham had visited them all i think.
RK Note: Remind me about Bentham? Will Ben wind up in Tunisia? Also, Ben is going to need to land 3 years in the future!!!

58:00 - is the crazy time stuff bc the wheel slipped off its axis? so now that john fixed it no more time travel?
RK Note: I hope its that simple, or else everyone is gonna die like Charlotte!! I'm so happy John turned the wheel back right! Also, why does this have to involve John dying?

59:00 - looks like an awfully simple ring - ez to fake...
RK Note: Um ok, how did you not mention how Jacob was all "Say hi to my son!" right before the flash of light?!?!?!!!! WHO IS JACOB'S SON??????????? ANYONE? ANYONE?
JN Note: ok. this warrants commenting. my initial reaction was that "well duh he's talking about jack, b/c he's appearing as christian (jack's dad) atm. but, i suppose it is possible that in fact jacob himself has a son. if thats the case though, i dont see how it could be any of the Losties b/c we know all of their parents already.
CB Note: When Locke went to see Jacob in the cabin and Christian was there, he said that he was not Jacob, but could speak on his behalf. So if we go on that, it's still Christian, and his son is Jack.

60:00 - oh to the triple emm gee....

61:00 - amazinggggggggggggggg. ben didnt know it was faradays mother, based on that look!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

62:00 - oh come on, thats it? desmonds not gonna say nuttin?!
RK Note: Desmond! How fortuitous! He PROMISED Penny he'd never go back to the island, he better keep to that promise and not be a damn fool!!! Also really, he didn't even need to go on this journey because Ben and Co are there to save the islanders anyway.
CB Note: But Des didn't know that. And I'm sure he has a part to play still. Also, it would seem he doesn't have to go back to the Island, cause they keep talking about the 6 needing to come back, but does Des have to also?

pretty good ep! get those notes coming!

Monday, February 9, 2009

Heroes Feb 9 Volume 4 Ep 2

i thought since i started blogging lost i wouldnt have to blog this atrocious terrible horrendous horrific hideous catastrophically awful show...?
LB Note: I thought we made it very clear that this logic was simply incorrect. You will continue to blog Heroes until we say so!

1:00 - this scene of him freezing open the plane and them getting to crash was terrible last week. what made them think it was gonna be any better to watch this week?
LB Note: OMG Why did they have to repeat so much? I was getting so annoyed. Fortunately I was slightly delayed so I FFd a lot of it.

2:00 - frankly, i wish it was 43 hours later for me right now.

3:00 - where'd all those guys with guns chasing hiro come from? they sure as hell weren't on the plane when claire "i have no useful offensive powers" bennett miraculously freed everyone...

4:00 - amazing! parkman randomly went into painting trance! hes using his total new and random power! how terribly contrived and awful storytelling. lets recycle MORE plots!
LB Note: This part made NO sense. The Isaac power did not involve like walking around to seek out paper to draw. Absurd.

5:00 - if i was peter, i would just pwn them all... seeing as how id have the powers of like 10 different heroes now!

6:00 - those computer grafix explosions are as fake and bad as if i were playing a game on my PS1 in 1998...

7:00 - uh oh, it only took an episode and 7 minutes for nathan to have a falling out with Evil Defense Department / Counterterrorist Guy (tm). whats the over/under on how many times nathan changes sides this season? ill make it 3, who is taking what action?

8:00 - as parkman draws, let me just stress again that recycling this plot device for the 4th time on the 4th different character is PATHETIC.
CB Note: They totally regret killing isaac mendez. This was always one of the cooler tricks.
LB Note: They are sooo sad that they killed Isaac. They should get Hiro to go back in time at some point and prevent him from dying so he can still draw.

9:00 - is he gonna supercharge her and they will run to arkansas from japan? that'll work...
CB Note: She was always able to run from place to place, even without being supercharged...don't you remember when we first met her? Stealing the formula from Hiro in Japan and running to Arthur back in the states?
LB Note: She can walk over water just like Jesus!

10:00 - save yourself masi oka! listen to mohinder. get off this terrible show!!!

11:00 - india?! are they gonna reopen the mohinder's family storyline?
CB Note: Oh let's hope not!!!!
LB Note: I think Mohinder will win 20 million Rupees on the Indian version of Who wants to Be a Millionaire?! and be accused of cheating and then through his interrogation we will learn his life story and how he came to know all of the answers...oh...wait...

12:00 - new characters oh boy!!!
CB Note: Well let's think about it, are we really loving the old characters at this moment? I'll take some new blood over Claire and Peter right about now

13:00 - did anyone not see that "them in front of you" line coming? oh well, at least 1 hero is still cool.

14:00 - in great news its actually 9:23, so, 1/3 of the way through!

24:00 - i just checked with cb to make sure they were in japan... so they DID run across the pacific ocean!

25:00 - and omg daph just mentioned that ando will kill hiro in the future. a) didn't we go over this in the finale, how hiro misinterpreted it? and b) hasn't that future been averted, like all the other futures? love me some time travel inconsistency, that's for sure!
CB Note: Yea, this isn't Lost with it's linear time travel and not being able to change things! They def should have averted that future (tho I blocked out most of last season)
LB Note: This was by far one of the dumbest scenes ever. "Right. I kill Hiro in the future. So he's still alive!" Um..someone please kill them both.


26:00 - i went to put away some clothes, but gosh, ali and peter sure tricked those dumb guys good!

27:00 - did peter just try to explain his new less cool power about getting a new one and losing an old one? really, they've just decided to change peter's powers now? guess mohinds should fix that formula huh. and no wonder he has to touch now! and... way to make your 2nd coolest character (ignoring his batman level grunting skills) less cool!
CB Note: This is quite the disappointment. Peter is supposed to be the anti-Sylar. Each being able to take powers and accumulate them to be super cool. What's having one power at a time good for?? Guess that explains why he couldn't fly out of the plane.
LB Note: They totally made this up in order to not have him be able to fly out of the plane. Very silly.


28:00 - good one claire - how could these 2 idiots expect you to just go to college and ignore everything? they're supposed to be smart, at least HRG is, instead of amazingly dumb! oh well, at least we have the new nickname Senator Skyboy. its almost as good as Mailman Mellin.

29:00 - HRG alluded to a secret plan to claire. and HRG doesn't like Defense guy. i wonder if HRG and nathan are planning a gigantic double cross?
CB Note: Nathan's who started the whole thing, what would be his endgame if he wants to double cross his own plan??? I think he just doesn't want his own family to be killed, and he can only trust HRG to not kill them. Hopefully HRG has a secret plan though that makes him more than a dumbdumb always following orders.
LB Note: HRG is always motivated by protecting Clare and his family. Nathan's motivation to stop people from having powers will still be there always. He just doesn't want to kill Peter.

30:00 - so.. this scene looks exciting. daph just got nutted from behind. let me say, right now, if they kill one of the few likable characters with personality.... now there's a big firefight! i wonder who is gonna pwn who?! the guys with guns or the heroes!!

31:00 - "smart move parkman!" - cb. good thing none of the 4 guys with automatic guns decided to shoot the guy crouching still, but instead kept shooting the 2 apparently dead girls?
CB Note: Smart move was about Parkman using his brain skills to make them shoot at each other. Too bad he's so slow about it.

32:00 - this show is so good, that even though cb is making me watch it, she is rifling through Rolling Stone, where we were just treated to a picture of naked amy winehouse, whose nipples were barely blurred, leaving her mellins still totally exposed...
CB Note: I admit that I may not have been giving my full attention to heroes...but tidying up and paging through a couple magazines seemed a lot more productive!
LB Note: her mellins...hahahahahah


33:00 - coincidence that sylar was at the house of somebody with a power? is that why he brought agent simmons there? and it kinda sucks that luke only managed to attack a tea cup?
LB Note: They're prolly related somehow or somehow connected to Sylar's real dad. Isn't this the address that the watchmaker sent him to?

34:00 - predictions now: sylar kills him, or takes him under his wing, like a robin to sylar's batman, or a Casio to Sylar's Rolex?
LB Note: See, the problem with your "prediction" is that you covered both of the obvious possibilities. Either killing him or takign him as a protegee. This is Sylar. That's like saying Prediction: Either x, or not x. NO NUT CREDIT FOR 34:00.

35:00 - i was supposed to feel tension during that hrg-nathan-claire-badguy scene. instead i thought it was funny and bad. this show is like an old dog that cant walk to the kitchen to eat, and spends all day on the couch in the den peeing on the pillows. somebody just take it to the vet and put it out of its misery...

36:00 - hey, did we resolve whether daph is dead yet? and, could that liberators line have been any dumber?
CB Note: I thought you'd like that as a little Iraqi joke.

37:00 - how could ali be so dumb to trust nathan?
CB Note: Cause they have not for one second made ANY of Ali's characters smart OR cool.

38:00 - terrible news: we are out of house reruns, and there's only 1 on wed and 1 on thurs!!

39:00 - fyi: i was gonna call him the burner, but cb totally nutted that hes.. The Microwaver! or, as my dad would call him, The Nuker!

40:00 - btw, this guy is sylar's brother or half brother. inherited a power, and is sociopathic, and his dad left. im bankin' on it.
CB note: He also knows exactly where Sylar's dad is, so that can't be a coincidence (or perhaps its just bad writing).
LB note: Echem, see LB Note above. Or to satiate MM and RK's love of the Bluebook, see supra LB note 33:00.

41:00 - i guess luke will be sylar's protege. and, mom, i don't really think that half dead agent was gonna stop sylar, duh. also, little heavy with the clock ticking sound effects there guys... i miss the subtle days of micah's theme song.
CB Note: Why did they just completely drop Micah and his cousin's storyline????

42:00 - good movies and shows need good villains. maybe part of the reason season 1 was good and the last 2 sucked is bc sylar is actually a good villain? that was the amazing thing about Independence Day - no villain really but total pwnage!
CB Note: So those aliens that wanted to kill us weren't villains?

43:00 - guys, it turns out cb may not like cilantro b/c she has the "hate cilantro" gene!
CB Note: I moved on to Bon Appetit at this point...

44:00 - cb just asked me whose side tracy is on. i think we can count on ali to make the wrong decision, as a general rule.

45:00 - peter blew his load early, i guess we'll never get to find out.

46:00 - it's a good thing for peter none of the other 10 guys with laser targeted super weapons decided to aim at him, and only hrg did!
LB Note: I don't understand how HRG can plausibly lie and say he didn't have a clear shot. You could see the red point of light on Peter. It's all very confusing.


54:00 - so, did peter fly around and find them, or did they all find magically conjure cell phones? the writers didn't even TRY to explain that one... they've given up, much like i have. at least there's that we can agree on!

55:00 - parkman's pissed... kinda sounds like daph is really dead. SIGH. AT. THIS. SHOW.

56:00 - peter is like the rebel general! good thing he trained as an EMT! yea, rock music, im pumped! do do do do do do do do do yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

57:00 - who is more clueless? claire's mom? or the writers?

58:00 - oh man, an anonoymous rebel got claire's cell phone and texted her secret rebel messages!!! this is totally like Episode IV: A New Hope!!
CB Note: I hope it's not West!
LB Note: Perhaps it's Microwave boy and that's Clare's new love interest...


59:00 - do you think the actors know the show is terrible now?

60:00 - how exciting, a cliff hanger! to be continued! cb voices everyone's concern - is a TBC really necessary for a serial drama?

can we quit this yet? i feel like we are suffering from BWS... (3 points to whoever guesses what it stands for!!)
CB Note: Bored Watchers Syndrome?
LB Note: Concur. And no, you can't quit.

Wednesday, February 4, 2009

LOST 2009 Ep 4

No way this ep is as good as last one, but let's hope it comes close!

1:00 - i bet that it was penny's boat that rescued the oceanic 6 otw off the island as soon as we saw a boat.
RK Note: This is NOT a nut. We were all meant to know that was penny's boat and that was the night they were rescued! I don't think anyone thought, "oh, what is that mysterious shot of the boat on the water at night that we've seen 567890345678 times before?"

2:00 - nice line about the normal bed kate. nut 1 for me!
RK Note: What about Kate's line was nice? That is NOT A NUT!!!!

2:30 - hey, speaking of claire going to LA to give the baby up, remember like in season 1 some people told her she had to be on that plane? cb mentions that claire was told that claire had to raise it. i really cant remember.
CB Note: Claire went to the psychic. He freaked out and initially refused to do a reading for her. She went back to him after her boyfriend left her to get him to do her reading. During the reading he told her that Claire had to raise her child herself and that "her goodness must be an influence on the child's development." Claire said that she wanted to give the baby up for adoption rather than raise it alone. She tried to give the baby up to a couple in Australia, but when she was signing the documents 2 pens given to her didn't work and she took it as an omen. She then went back to the psychic one more time, who told her that her baby would be safe if she gave it to a couple in LA and gave her the 815 plane ticket and insisted she had to take that flight.

3:00 - just writing the name "claire" makes me think of kim bauer and peter "batman" petrelli.
CB Note: This claire is so much better!
RK Note: This claire is WAY better. Do we have any good working theories on what happened to Claire when she disappeared? Is she dead? If she is alive, where the heck has she been all this time, and why was she so weird that time she was in Jacob's cabin? Slash, she may have been dead when we saw her in the cabin.

4:00 - fyi, the first 3 minutes of the show were pointless.
RK Note: Stop insulting Lost, give it a chance!

5:00 - cb thinks future kate looks hot. i prefer season 1 kate. but lets be honest, id still... ya know.
CB Note: It's amazing what a little makeup and hair product can do!!
RK Note: Future Kate looked GREAT! Evangeline Lilly is so pretty in person, too!!

6:00 - cb thinks that sun looks exactly the same. i agree.
RK Note: Where is Sun's baby?

7:00 - also, if it appears the blogging is mostly pointless thus far, thats bc nothing has happened yet, still.
RK Note: Really, you just don't have enough to make fun of, because Lost is so good!

8:00 - but ooh, sun has surveillance photos of ben and jack. and a box of chocolates. what's that Forrest, your favorite kind is Caramel Colt 45?
CB Note: Life is like a box of guns....

9:00 - commercial break one, and i am just really skeptical of this Sun is bad and working with caleb plot. is she really dumb enough to think that its all ben's fault, and not caleb's too? would she really not discuss things with the rest of them off the island and figure out that they cant really trust anyone? feh.

10:00 - juliet is totes muh fav. im rooting for her.

11:00 - why is only charlotte sick?

12:00 - great minds think alike, juliet, great minds think alike.

13:00 - shouldn't this lawyer guy be on the CW? one of his daughters ended up dead on lost 2 years ago (i'm lookin at YOU nikki, of nikki and paulo), another one is sleeping with D on GG, the other is a floozy costarring with xstina macintoshfence on samantha when, and the last, well she was lindsey's best friend in Mean Girls!
CB Note: Just, wow. I'm going to have to explain ALL of that to everyone else cause no one watched Related, no one. And he will always be Angela's dad on My So-Called Life, before anything. I'm so glad he has a more substantial part...I was hoping his whole part wasn't those 2 minutes at Kate's door last week.

14:00 - LOL at all this "we'll take a raft around the island" talk and lack of island geography.
RK Note: Where's that big foot statute with four toes? That's my favorite piece of island geography! Also where's the black smoke monster lately?

15:00 - wtf are you kidding me? this is why locke has to bring them back? "this is all happening bc they left, i have to bring them back..." yea, sure, bc it had NOTHING to do with you watching ben go down a super secret elevator shaft and turn a giant wheel in some rock. suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. (cb has her own note ill let her add herself)
CB Note: Richard TOLD Locke that he had to bring them back to fix the island. It's not like he made it up himself. And you know Locke, he'll believe anything with his whole heart and not for a second doubt that it needs to be done. Furthermore, Ben turning the wheel is involved in the "bringing them back" because Ben has to come back too! They have to get everyone who left with the flash back on the island to fix it. Not that I understand why or how that would fix it, but you don't disobey the never-aging man!

16:00 - lol maybe it will kill you johnnyboy!

17:00 - for the record, its 9:14, and i still don't think anything has really happened yet.
RK Note: I resent your negativity

18:00 - charlotte pretended to have amnesia for a second it seemed there. shame, something almost happened!

19:00 - did anyone else find the sawyer says "we're goin' to the orchid" music pretty funny?

20:00 - lol, at jack taking that call while that woman was yelling at him. it was all, "talk to the hand bitch"

21:00 - a) its unclear who was first to nut the "ohnoes this guy is coming to kill sayeed" amazingly obvious plot twist of the year so far. i mean seriously, could there have been less tension? cb commented "how do they know where sayeed is always?" and my response for now is "Sun is surveilling him!"
CB Note: First of all, as I said to J last night, not EVERYTHING has to be a huge plot twist or something nutworthy. Why is the nurse being a bad guy trying to get Sayid bad TV just cause we realized (as Sayid did) what was happening immediately? It doesn't make it any less enjoyable to watch! What makes it unenjoyable is you needing to NUT everything!!!!!!!!!! Secondly, the tension comes from trying to figure out who is sending all these guys after Sayid. Thirdly, Sun is receiving surveillance reports, but we don't know if she's doing them or widmore is doing them and sending them to her. Also, I don't know if Sun has a reason to try to capture Sayid. But, also let's note that these people aren't trying to kill Sayid, just tranquilize him, so whatever their plans are, they need Sayid alive for it!

22:00 - also, why did dumbass not just shoot sayeed right away, why the awful elaborate ruse?
CB Note: True that. Also, who turns their back on a known assassin?

23:00 - cb notes the significance of them wanting to just tranquilize him. although we dunno what it is yet. ohno they are going for kate!

24:00 - oooooh yea. Becky Bloomwood Confessions of a Shopaholic commercial, featuring Disturbiaaaaaaaaaaaaa. sing it Rihanna!!! (cb is not pleased, becky blooms is british in the book, but she's american in the movie. the book takes place in britain and they are both british. here's the thing though, they made the movie in america, made isla fisher american, BUT, left the male lead as british. just... lol.)

25:00 - why not just tell her assassins are after her, jack?

26:00 - why are ben and sayeed in a fight now? i dun really remember.

27:00 - cb throws up an awesome nut! theres that shining light up to the sky, they dunno what it is, and cb is all over its the hatch! john knows, and wants to not go near it, and avoid the beach. cb and locke - 2 peas in a pod.

28:00 - nut disclaimer, did they show them seeing their old selves in last week's previews?

29:00 - ohnoes, miles is bleedering.

30:00 - so, sawyer walked in on kate helping claire give birth. a) cb actually nutted this was what happening when she heard the girls muffled yelling. b) remember how we watched a rerun of Lost on channel 55 and then ended up watching our first episode of House after? well, THIS was the episode of Lost we watched - this exact one! it must mean something...
CB Note: I still cannot that we randomly came upon the same ep that was then featured in the new lost, SO RANDOM!

31:00 - oh, and sawyer is sad, bc he saw kate. touching. cb's mushy over it.

32:00 - kate should commit arson and burn the lawyer's office down... hey, for 2 bonus points, who knows the elements of arson in NY?

33:00 - i vaguely recall locke pounding on the hatch and the light coming on.

34:00 - so, now i was wondering why miles and charlotte got the bleed, but the others didn't. my basic guess is it was just they didn't come with our Losties, so our Losties are special. then faraday is all "maybe its duration" and im thinking "oh, they've been on the island less long". after all, we know faraday was also on the island in the past from last week. but THEN he goes and says "have you been on the island before?!". and miles is all "wtf huh?" so charlotte and miles could have been on it before? and longer than faraday? and, not to be a debbie downer, so were those 2 guys from the freighter who died.... pft. i hope they explain it good!
CB Note: We already had a hint that Charlotte had been on the island before in her first ep! In fact, according to Lostpedia, it's even implied that she may have been BORN on the island!! ALSO - I cannot take credit for this cause I just read it as a guess on eonline but I'm super pissed that I didn't think of it.....Miles could be Marvin Candle's (the Dharma guy from the videos) son! Who we see in the premiere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RK Note: So when Faraday said "duration" I thought OH, maybe BEING on the island longer builds UP duration that would lead to less likeliness of bleeding, and the Oceanic survivors and Juliet have clearly been on the island for awhile, and Dan Faraday may have been on the island back in the past like when we saw him in the cave posing as a member of the Dharma Experiment, and so I thought "well that makes sense, those people have been on the Island before and have built up endurance and Miles and Charlotte have not." But THEN like a second later it was all FLIP FLOPPING the OTHER way, where the LONGER you have been on the island apparently the more likely you are to bleed? And Miles and Charlotte would have been on the island longer, and CHARLOTTE on the island the LONGEST OF ALL? Apparently this is so-- but when was Charlotte on the Island? Maybe she was born and/or grew up there? Does she KNOW she grew up there? What was the hint from Charlotte's first ep that hinted she's been on the Island before, and does she REMEMBER and KNOW it? Also I ABSOLUTELY 100% agree Miles must be the Dharma Guy's son, that makes perfect sense-- but the bigger question is, why doesn't Miles KNOW it and why doesn't Miles KNOW he lived on the island as a child? Because Miles did not appear to know it at all!

35:00 - cb asks a critical question: how'd that other boat catch up with them so fast?
CB Note: They did seem to come out of nowhere to be right behind them.
RK Note: And WHO are those boat people?!?!! I think they were in the FUTURE in that scene where they were being chased in the canoes! But how far in the future?

36:00 - i enjoyed sawyer's one liner conversation with god. i thought the first one was dumb, but it set up the humorous second well.

37:00 - caryn claims she nutted the client was claire's mom. she did indeed say it right before the door opened, so she does get that credit. she also says she had it way long ago, but you now how it is, CBNote or it didnt happen!!!

38:00 - this aaron/claire/claire's mom/jack/kate thing better go somewhere. as in, somewhere more than "oh hi claire's mom heres kinda what happened i hope its ok, thanks for understanding."

39:00 - mid Jack speech im thinking "hmm, i wonder if claire's mom doesn't actually know whats going on, she doesn't seem to be reacting at all to jack being there, and she'd totally partly blame him b/c he'd know it wasn't kate's baby either" and then she's all "what're you talking about?" and im like "AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHH I SHOULDA WROTE IT DOWN!!!!" and then cb's like "i knew it too, it was obvi. blog it or it didnt happen" and i gonna propose that we pretend we both nutted it but i didn't get a chance b/c she started complaining about how i pause the show to blog, and spend all show talking about nuts or non-nuts or attacking her nuts and yada yada yada then i hit play again.

40:00 - super sketchy explanation for how she just happened to be in town too. i hope its really cooler than that, i was getting intrigued!

41:00 - also, on a separate and different note, i kind of think its apparent now that ben is a good guy, since we know widmore was a former other who got kicked off the island for being a dbag.

42:00 - GREAT twist with the lawyer going to see ben, re hurley's murder charge. it was BEN who put the lawyer on to kate, so kate would want to run, and be persuadable to go with jack and back to the island. brilliant!!!
RK Note: But even weirder, why did Ben admit it? The more Kate thinks someone really DOES want to take Aaron, the more likely she'll be to want to go back to the island!! Maybe Ben will threaten to tell Claire's mom the truth?

43:00 - i wonder if they'll ever go back and explain the pregnancy problem on the island. is it related to time travel?
RK Note: They better explain EVERYTHING eventually

44:00 - ohnoes a juliet nosebleed!!!
RK Note: This fits into the duration thing discussed above, since Juliet has been on the island longer than the Oceanic people by awhile... BUT Miles and Charlotte therefore were on even LONGER than Juliet. So also, is it just a matter of time before Faraday and the Oceanic survivors ALSO start nose bleeding? The Oceanic Six sure better get to the Island soon and save them all from hemorrhaging!!

45:00 - Reenactment:

Locke: anyone speak french?
Scene: people talking french on a liferaft
Me: omg i wonder if its Rousseau?!?! (insert huge nut-grin)
Cb: oooooh
Scene: unroll Jin in lifeboat
Cb: Jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!!!!
Me: F.

ok, so a few points - first, how did those french people on the boat get there? cb makes a great point that maybe they are Rousseau's people, bc they could still be in the past. now, part of me wants my nut. the other part of me is hoping they don't expect me to believe that Jin has been floating unconscious in the water and spasming through time while our Losties have been having adventures for the last FOUR episodes...
RK Note: And yet, apparently they DO want us to believe that. Oy. So happy Jin is alive though!!!

46:00 - oh, kudos to Kate for figuring out the aaron plot that i nutted earlier.

(fast forward to) 59:00 Think sun will decide to be a total moron?
RK Note: I think once Ben proves someone to Sun that Jin is alive, she'll go back to the island with them. BUT, major problem, WHERE IS SUN'S BABY? No way Sun is going to go back to the island without the baby, right?!?!?!! The baby was in her tummy on the island so it should be allowed to come back with them/ not sure if it "must" return like the other 6?

60:00 - nut nut nut, nut nut nut, nut nut nut nut nut nut nuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttterooooo. young rousseau sure is a hottie! cant wait til jin hears her name... here it is..... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

61:00 - cb was thrilled that i mistakenly threw my AWESOME nut away, and she scooped it up and said it could still be true. :)
CB Note: So, as soon as we see Jin, J's all like oh, well it's not Rousseau then, I wonder how these random French people got there. And I'm like, have you not been watching the last 3 episodes?? They're going back and forth through time and they interact with people at different times. It IS Rousseau back when they crashed and landed on the island! And he's all like huh? And I'm all like NUT for ME Biatch!
RK Note: I LOVE that it's Rousseau!!!! So cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also what happened to Rousseau in the present? I can't remember if she is alive or dead? if she is alive, where is she?

on the whole, this ep was kind of average, not that great really. however, i very much like that we are seeing young rousseau, thats brilliant. also, even avg LOST is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loseroes.